Titan International, Inc. (NYSE:TWI) Q3 2018 After-effects Antithesis Appointment Alarm November 2, 2018 9:00 AM ET
Todd Shoot – Treasurer and VP, IR
Paul Reitz – President and CEO
David Martin – SVP and CFO
Joe Mondillo – Sidoti and Company
Chirag Patel – Jefferies
Komal Patel – Goldman Sachs
Alex Blanton – Bright Harbor
Kyle Krueger – Apollo
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and acceptable to the Titan All-embracing Incorporated Third Division 2018 Antithesis Appointment Call. At this time, all participants accept been placed on a listen-only mode, and we will accessible the attic for your questions and comments afterwards the presentation. [Operator Instructions]
It is now my amusement to about-face the attic over to Todd Shoot, Treasurer and Vice President of Investor Relations for Titan. Mr. Shoot, the attic is yours.
Thank you, Cole. Acceptable morning and welcome, everyone, to our third division antithesis call. On the alarm with me today, I am admiring to accept our President and CEO, Paul Reitz; and our Chief Vice President and CFO, David Martin.
I will activate with the admonition that the after-effects we are about to analysis were presented in the antithesis absolution issued this morning, alternating with our Anatomy 10-Q, which was additionally filed with the Securities and Barter Commission this morning.
As a reminder, this morning, we will be discussing assertive advanced information, including the Company’s affairs and projections for the approaching that absorb risk, uncertainties and assumptions that could account our absolute after-effects to alter materially from the advanced information.
Additional advice apropos factors that either alone or in the accumulated could account absolute after-effects to alter materially from these advanced statements can be activate in the Safe Harbor account included in today’s antithesis release, captivated to the Company’s Anatomy 8-K filed beforehand today as able-bodied as our latest Anatomy 10-K and Forms 10-Q, all of which accept been filed with the Securities and Barter Commission.
In addition, today’s animadversion may accredit to non-GAAP banking measures, which are advised to supplement, but not be a acting for, the best anon commensurable GAAP measures. The antithesis release, which accompanies today’s call, contains banking and added quantitative advice to be discussed today as able-bodied as a adaptation of the non-GAAP measures to the best commensurable GAAP measures. The antithesis absolution is accessible on the Company’s website aural the Investor Relations breadth beneath Account & Events.
Please note, today’s alarm is actuality recorded. A archetype of today’s alarm transcript, will be fabricated accessible aural the Investor Relations breadth on our website.
We’re action to alpha the alarm this morning with Paul action through some highlights from Titan’s business and our markets from the quarter, and David will airing us through an overview of our banking results.
I’d like to now about-face it over to Paul.
Thanks, Todd. Acceptable morning, and we acknowledge your time in aing us today. As Todd mentioned, I’ll alpha off by talking about some highlights for the business and about-face it over to David. And then, we will accommodate some advice on the Russian put advantage afore absolute by demography your questions.
So, let’s jump into the business as Titan had addition acceptable division of sales growth. This was our seventh afterwards and was led by our earthmoving/construction articulation that was up over 15%. Our acquirement advance was solid this division at 4% but was bedfast by bill fluctuations that absent that appulse would put our advance about 10%, which would accept put us arctic of $400 actor adjoin the appear $385 million.
However, we did a acceptable job this quarter, leveraging that acquirement advance as we produced 26% incremental gross margins that collection our adapted EBITDA up by over 35% this period. This puts our year-to-date adapted EBITDA at $104 million, which is added than bifold breadth we accomplished all of 2016 and angled year-to-date 2017 levels. This quarter, our continuing efforts to drive acquirement accretion through to the allowance improvements and afresh on to the basal line, resulted in us advertisement an adapted net assets of $0.04 per allotment that compares to a accident aftermost year of $0.09 a share. That’s nice advance year-over-year, and I should add it’s our aboriginal assisting third division aback 2013.
It’s important to accumulate in apperception that the alone net assets acclimation is accompanying to the Russian put option, which is primarily for absorption and bill fluctuation. Put adjustments was $4 actor for Q3 and $11 actor for 2018 altogether. I will allocution added about the put advantage later, as I noted. And accumulate in mind, the put advantage does expire in January of 2019. So, the appulse that we’re seeing this year is an accident that will stop at the end of this year.
I additionally appetite to acknowledgment that in the third quarter, it is accepted convenance that we accept beneath assembly canicule due to bulb shutdowns for aliment and acceptable summer holidays. So, you can’t sequentially analyze the third division to the additional quarter, and actually charge to analyze year-over-year after-effects to accretion a bright compassionate of our achievement this period.
Now, to aggrandize that border and booty a accessory aback at the accomplished brace of years, you’d see that Titan has approved acceptable sales advance of 13% so far in 2018 and 16% in ‘17. I accept in abounding instances, our advance bulk has exceeded the bazaar assets in areas breadth we do compete. These solid acquirement assets accumulated with our operational improvements that we’ve been continuously active has resulted in incremental adapted EBITDA margins over 37% in 2018. But accumulate in mind, it’s adjoin a boxy accomplishments this year with cogent raw actual aggrandizement and volatility.
So, attractive aback to 2017’s achievement which afresh was a arduous year with accustomed elastic for all annoy companies, we still managed to address 13% incremental adapted EBITDA margins. And you acclimatize the 2017 afresh for that accustomed elastic appulse that impacted all annoy companies, that would accept put aftermost year at able-bodied over 20% incremental EBITDA margins.
Where I’m action with these comments is that we’re assured we’ve congenital a acceptable foundation for the approaching over the accomplished brace of years, and there’s still abounding allowance for us to abide to drive stronger allowance improvements as our sales as college in the future.
I do appetite booty a footfall aback alike added to 2015 aback we were in the bosom of the alternate abatement and analyze that to the aeon breadth we’re today in 2018, aloof to accord you a account of breadth we’ve appear from aback those canicule a few years ago. If you do that, you’ll see that aback 2015, our 2018 year-to-date sales are up 14%, gross accumulation is up 35%, and that equals 27% incremental gross margins. Again, the point is our absolute administration aggregation is actively focused and able to booty advantage of the acceptable opportunities advanced for Titan to abide active and convalescent our margins, advantage our absolute infrastructure, cut costs breadth we can, and actually aloof abide to drive bottomward our all-embracing bulk anatomy and acquisition means to advance margins either through costs or artefact improvements, enhancements, new artefact development. There’s a cardinal of levers we can pull. While volumes accept connected to advance over the accomplished brace years, they are still able-bodied beneath the actual boilerplate in some of our key — abounding of our key artefact categories, abnormally actuality in Arctic America, and I additionally appetite to echo that in 2017 and 2018, we faced a actually airy bulk ambiance with raw materials, accuracy that is impacted about every aggregation in our industry.
So, really, with that actuality said, aback the alpha of 2015, we generated 67% all-embracing gross accumulation advance and 23% incremental margins during that period. Point of all this is, as markets improve, we’ve got affluence of aerodrome to accumulate improving. And as we admission the end of 2018, we accept that our affairs for 2019 accessory to abide on these absolute trends in the accomplished brace of years.
As you know, the ag markets about the apple accept been inclement this year for abounding reasons, but all-embracing they remained aloft sea level. Aloof afresh here, the Brazil has a new President that is advancing into a pro-business mindset. So, hopefully, advice calm the amnion there. Acceptable account advancing out of Arctic America. Contempo surveys appearance that 45% of ag accessories dealers are assured revenues to admission by 2% or added in 2019. It’s not accelerated growth, but it appears that admitting the airy affairs that abounding participants in the Arctic American ag breadth accept been experiencing, abounding today feel that we’re on aing basement and we actually do apprehend that from abounding of our customers, I’ve been on the alley actually a bit for aftermost few months and actually do advanced that 2019, there’s a acceptable aing foundation, and afresh we’re audition that from abounding of our barter as well.
From Titan’s perspective, we aren’t aloof sitting about and cat-and-mouse for the ag markets to improve. Our Brazilian aggregation has done an accomplished job ablution initiatives aural their operations to ascendancy costs, assure share. In Arctic America, we accept been alive agilely on our 80-20 affairs that will be launched in aboriginal 2019, to adapt our artefact action and actually how we administer our operations in our Arctic American annoy business. We accept this affairs will advance profitability, banknote breeze alive basic levels and accredit us to achieve bigger decisions apropos our artefact portfolio. We’re actually aflame about the affairs of what this can do for us in the future, and we will be abacus added accuracy on that as we aeon that out in 2019.
Titan is acutely a all-around company. In 2018, I would say, Titan, like abounding companies that attempt in our industry, we accept activate ourselves focused on apropos actuality in Arctic America, primarily stemming from the tariffs and the appulse on raw abstracts and how it’s apprenticed lower article prices that appulse the all-embracing ag economy. Titan ancestry stems from U.S. ag. It’s a cogent disciplinarian of our all-embracing performance. However, I advanced it’s important that I highlight how our Aggregation has acquired to alter aloft Arctic American agronomics business.
If you accessory aback a few years ago, our earthmoving/construction articulation comprised 41% of our sales and 31% of our gross margin. Today, in our best contempo quarter, earthmoving/construction sits at 47% of sales and 41% of our gross margin. Also, a few years ago, 52% of our sales were alfresco Arctic America compared to about 60% today. Our ITM basic business that operates primarily in earthmoving/construction articulation and alfresco Arctic America has been on a able aisle in 2017 as we mentioned and throughout 2018 and has afflicted at a about-face in our Company’s operations. We abide to see this allotment of our business growing in antithesis of 30% with EBITDA improvements that are aloft those levels.
Yes, Arctic American ag is a cogent allotment of Titan and our business, but that’s acutely not all of who we are today. We’ve formed adamantine as one Titan to get us through the alternate downturn. We accept that we set us and our Aggregation and actually done a acceptable job with our barter to actualize a acceptable aisle for advance over the accomplished brace of years. We added than angled our adapted EBITDA this year and accept that we accept set a able foundation for the approaching to abide active appear college and bigger achievement levels.
I’d now like to about-face the alarm over to David. David?
Thanks, Paul, and acceptable morning to anybody on the call.
Let’s get beeline into the numbers for our third division and afresh the performance. I’ll additionally altercate a few things that we’re absorption on as we get afterpiece to 2019. I’ll alpha with net sales. Net sales for the third division of 2018 were $385 million, this was up 4% or about $14 actor from a year ago. This is the seventh afterwards division with year-over-year increases, as Paul said earlier. On connected bill basis, revenues would accept been up 10% or about $22 actor in the division which would accept been $407 actor in absolute sales.
For Q3, net sales were college in our earthmoving and architecture articulation while ag and chump segments were lower aback compared to the aforementioned division aftermost year. Net sales on a abaft 12-month base has claimed to $1.62 billion, which represents a 15% admission on a commensurable base from a year ago.
Moving on to our gross accumulation and allowance performance. Appear gross accumulation in the third division was $44 million, or 11.4% of net sales, compared to $40 actor or 10.8% of net sales in the aforementioned division a year ago. This admission represents a 9% advance in gross accumulation adjoin aftermost year. The admission in gross accumulation in dollars was apprenticed by added sales volume, partially account by actual costs as we talked about a lot this year. The appulse from abrogating bill adaptation furnishings on gross accumulation was about $2.9 actor for the division or 6%. Our all-embracing gross allowance advance was primarily aftereffect of the assembly efficiencies we’ve been able to drive with added volume, account somewhat by the added raw actual costs. While we were able to canyon through the college actual costs in abounding ways, our all-embracing accumulation dollars were cloistral but our margins were abnormally impacted as a result.
Now, let’s aloof booty a accessory at anniversary of the three segments. Our agronomical articulation net sales were $163 million, bottomward 4% year-over-year. They would accept been absolute if not for 7% bill adaptation headwind. Aggregate in the articulation was bottomward 2%, while favorable bulk and mix added 4% to articulation net sales. Sales in Europe were bottomward somewhat due to concise slowness in the bazaar and some customer-directed acclimation delays. Latin America ag sales were lower in the quarter, but that was mostly due to the bill adaptation effects. Our agronomical articulation gross accumulation for the third division was $19.9 million, up hardly from aftermost year at $19.1 million, admitting lower sales. Year-over-year gross allowance bigger 103 base credibility in the third division to 12.2%, which was apprenticed by the assembly efficiencies, primarily in Arctic America and Latin America.
Continuing assimilate earthmoving and architecture segment. Our earthmoving and architecture articulation accomplished an admission in net sales of about $24 actor or 15% to $180 million. Aggregate assets in the articulation were 15% while absolute bulk and mix, and abrogating currencies account anniversary added at 4%. On a year-to-date basis, earthmoving and architecture net sales remained 28% aloft the aforementioned aeon aftermost year. The stronger alternation of advance in the articulation came in Europe with ITM’s basic business as we’ve been talking about all year.
Gross accumulation aural earthmoving and architecture for the third division was $17.8 million, which represents a $3 actor admission from a year-ago as able-bodied as a 41 basis-point advance in gross allowance to 9.9%. The admission in gross accumulation was apprenticed by added sales alternating with assembly efficiencies accompanying to the bigger accommodation appliance aloft our plants, primarily in Europe.
Finally, let me awning our achievement in the chump segment. The chump articulation third division net sales were $41 million, abbreviating 6% aback compared to the aftermost year. Added aggregate of 3% and favorable bulk and mix of 2% could not actually account the cogent FX annoyance of 11% that we accomplished with the bigger appulse out in Latin America. The segment’s gross accumulation for the third division was $6 actor compared to $6.3 actor a year ago. Gross allowance was 14.5% which was an advance of 22 base credibility over the aforementioned aeon aftermost year. Again, it should be acclaimed that absent the bill headwinds, anniversary of our segments would accept apparent top band advance aback compared to the above-mentioned year quarter.
Turning to operating expenses. SG&A and R&D costs for the third division of 2018 were $36.3 actor a abatement of 5.9 million. As a allotment of net sales, SG&A and R&D was 9.4% compared to 11.4% in the commensurable above-mentioned year period. The abatement in SG&A and R&D costs primarily accompanying to accrued accidental accountability of $6.5 actor for a acknowledged accuracy in 2017.
During the third quarter, we adopted the accoutrement of a new accounting accepted apropos the bulk of accomplishing about billow accretion arrange and assets treatment. As abounding of you know, we’re in the action of implementing a new cloud-based ERP system, which began in the aboriginal allotment of 2018. Above-mentioned to the acceptance of the new standard, which was an allowable during the third quarter, we incurred about $4 actor in development and accomplishing costs in the aboriginal bisected of the year accompanying to the new system. The appulse of capitalizing these costs has been reflected in the banking statements retroactively this division and you’ll agenda that change in our assets statement.
Approximately $2.1 actor of accomplishing costs were additionally capitalized in the third division of 2018. The acquittal aeon for these costs as able-bodied as approaching costs of accomplishing will be about 10 years, absorption the aforementioned acceding as our billow accretion account subscription, including approaching renewals. Our accomplishing is on clue and on account to this point, which includes our accumulated banking environment, alternating with portions of our Arctic American operations. Added rollouts to the operations will booty abode over the aing 12 to 15 months.
Royalty bulk of $2.6 actor or 0.7% net sales was constant with this aeon a year ago. We appear assets from operations of $4.8 million, compared to an operating accident of $4.7 actor in the commensurable aeon aftermost year, which is an advance of $9.5 million. A allowance of 1.3% is not breadth we appetite to be but it is cogitating of the bigger aggregate and is a solid aftereffect compared to our contempo past. Accumulate in apperception that third division was commonly — has commonly been slower, melancholia division for the business. So connected improvements in advantage are able assurance of bazaar improvements as able-bodied as strides we are authoritative in our operational achievement aloft the business. Also, an important action to advantage our operating costs to drive operating allowance achievement in the future, and we are already accepting acceptable focus on this in the organization.
Interest bulk was $7.6 actor during the quarter, which was agnate to a year ago in Q3. Our adopted barter accretion for Q3 was $900,000, which compares to a accretion of $800,000 a year ago. I mentioned this aftermost quarter, but I appetite point out it again, this is an important action for our all-around administration aggregation to focus on abbreviation the animation that we accomplished accompanying to bill swings, decidedly as it relates to our all-around treasury strategies. I advanced that we will be acrimonious off portions of our aloft initiatives afterwards this quarter.
During the third quarter, our appear assets afore taxes — assets taxes was $5.5 million, an advance of $14.3 actor from an $8.8 actor accident during the aforementioned aeon aftermost year. Tax bulk during the division was about $2.8 actor adjoin tax bulk of $2.4 actor in the commensurable above-mentioned period. Assets tax bulk of 51% during the division is usually aerial due to mix of authoritative pretax assets and losses. I mentioned it aftermost quarter, but as a reminder, our annual pretax assets and losses in assorted jurisdictions alter due to achievement and to a assertive admeasurement melancholia trends. So, we may see abnormal annual tax ante from time to time. The net banknote tax payments for the third division were $2.4 million, primarily in the all-embracing business.
A final account of agenda in our third division achievement altercation relates to the accretion bulk acclimation of $4 million, which added from the above-mentioned year Q3 bulk of $882,000; about $1 actor of this acclimation accompanying to the appulse — accepted aeon appulse of bill abasement of the Russian ruble to the U.S. dollar and the was principally cogitating of the absorption basic to the fair bulk of the put option.
On an adapted basis, net assets attributable to Titan was $2.3 actor for the division or $0.04 per adulterated share. This compares to the above-mentioned year third division adapted net accident attributable to Titan of $5.5 actor or $0.09 per adulterated allotment loss. This represents a $0.13 per allotment advance compared to the above-mentioned year. Our third division adapted EBITDA achievement was $25.5 million, which was an admission of 35% from the third division aftermost year. For the aboriginal nine months, adapted EBITDA was $104 actor adjoin alone $51 actor a year ago.
Now, I’d like to move to our banking position and highlight a few key antithesis breadth clamminess and basic items. The connected advance in our business has resulted in the charge for added alive capital, which in about-face has bargain our banknote antithesis at the end of this quarter. Our banknote antithesis of about $97 actor was as of September decreased $9.7 actor from — during the third division and $47 actor over the aboriginal nine months. As I said earlier, our aftermost 12-month sales accept jumped 15%, which is over $200 actor in dollar in topline growth.
We assured the division with accounts receivable and accounts payable balances lower during the division while our account antithesis increased, absorption the charge to buy advanced some raw actual requirements for the accessible and accepted melancholia advance periods, and to get added favorable appraisement on steel, particularly. Our all-embracing banknote about-face aeon metric came in at 110 canicule and added 12 canicule compared to breadth we assured the additional quarter, apprenticed primarily by the admission in inventory. I still advanced some defalcation of alive basic into banknote during our everyman melancholia division in Q4, while still authoritative adapted decisions surrounding account administration for our accomplished melancholia volumes in Q1 and Q2 aing year.
Now for a animadversion apropos our debt. Our accumulated accepted and abiding debt totaled $461 actor at the end of September which is about collapsed from breadth we assured the additional quarter. Accepted maturities due aural one year totaled $50 actor with $26 actor of this bulk recording as due during the final division of 2018. Abundant of this $26 actor advancing due during Q4 consists of bounded overdrafts and alive basic accessories which are advised on-demand for advertisement purposes, but are accepted to aeon over afterwards the use of banknote during Q4. As a reminder, our debt primarily consists of the $400 actor of chief anchored notes, which complete in 2023.
CapEx for the aboriginal nine months of the year were $26.5 actor adjoin $23.6 actor during the commensurable aeon a year-ago. CapEx for 2018 is forecasted to be in the ambit of $35 actor to $40 actor with the top end of that ambit bargain from antecedent appraisal of $45 million. Banknote payments for interests are currently forecasted to be about $14 actor for the of the year based on September 30, 2018 debt balances.
So, summarizing our third division performance, there are several takeaways. Net sales added by $14 actor or 4%, the additional — seventh afterwards year-over-year annual increase. This is about a 10% admission aback bill headwinds are excluded. If we accessory at the aftermost 12 months, sales were up over 15% adjoin the commensurable aeon aftermost year. So, we added gross accumulation by $3.6 actor from Q3 aftermost year, an 8.9% year-over-year improvement. As a allotment of net sales, SG&A and R&D costs were alone 9.4% adjoin 11% during the third division of 2017. Assets from operations was $4.8 million, which was $9.5 actor bigger than a year ago. And adapted EBITDA added to $25.5 million, which is up 35% from the above-mentioned year. And adapted EPS of $0.04 per allotment was a $0.13 year-over-year advance on an adapted basis.
In closing, I appetite to reiterate that our antecedent abounding year 2018 business angle advice charcoal essentially unchanged. Our accepted 2018 apprehension charcoal aural the defined ranges categorical in the antecedent abode for sales and gross accumulation growth, and our SG&A and R&D costs as a percent of sales. As a reminder, we are now in our melancholia low-volume division of the year with accustomed slowdowns due to holidays afterwards in the quarter. That said, our EBITDA achievement expectations for the full-year are somewhat college than advanced stated. We accept that beeline EBITDA may hardly beat the advanced declared advice of $98 actor to $109 actor for 2018 due in allotment to the adjustments in G&A accompanying to the aboriginal acceptance of the new accounting accepted accompanying to our ERP accomplishing costs.
After my aboriginal 120 canicule on the job, the priorities I categorical initially abide essentially unchanged. First, there are a cardinal of important initiatives already underway with the focus on active profitability, decidedly in our allowance achievement aloft the business. There is a lot of assignment still advanced to drive operational improvements in our assembly facilities, decidedly in Arctic America. Our focus is to attenuated in on those things that beggarly the best and to drive accord amidst our business administration from sales to operations to our accumulated managers. I mentioned it earlier, but we additionally accept to accessory adapted strategies to abate the animation in our achievement accompanying to the impacts of bill fluctuations and to drive able all-around treasury administration practices with focus on appropriately managing basic amid our all-around businesses.
I activate that we accept focused on banknote breeze aural this administration team, and what we charge is a stronger banking accuracy and information, not data. And we accept been and are authoritative adapted investments in systems and bodies to drive this. Anniversary of our initiatives will focus on active sustainable, assisting advance aloft Titan.
Now, I’ll about-face the alarm aback over to Paul for a few added comments afore we get into Q&A.
Great. Thanks, David.
Just a few addendum apropos the put options apropos to our Russian annoy business, Voltyre-Prom. As we declared on our antithesis alarm aftermost division and in the anatomy 10-Q for aftermost quarter, we are now aural the six-month window that started on July 9th breadth either or both of our ally in our Russian collective adventure could exercise the put option. A archetype of the shareholders’ acceding which includes this put advantage was filed alternating with our anatomy 10-Q for this contempo division and is about available. As we advanced disclosed, the put options were acclimatized by both of our ally in the Russian collective venture. Our absolute obligation would be about $120 million, which Titan would accept the advantage of clearing in either banknote or advisedly tradable Titan accepted stock. The closing of the put advantage would be adapted to action aural 60 days’ apprehension of the put or aback all all-important authoritative approvals are obtained, if later.
Under the shareholders’ agreement, if all-important authoritative approvals are not acquired aural 120 canicule of our cancellation of a put apprehension or above-mentioned to that applicative authoritative ascendancy refuses to admission us approval, afresh our obligation to acquirement the absorption in Voltyre-Prom from such accomplice would cease and they would absorb their accepted disinterestedness buying in the collective venture. It’s important to agenda that one of the ally of the Russian Development Advance Fund managed by their CEO, Kirill Dmitriev, is on a sectorial sanctions list. And should our Board adjudge to amuse the put and stock, there are authoritative approvals that we accept will accept to be accustomed by RDIF. If RDIF was not to accept able authoritative approval, afresh we accept that discussions would booty abode on added another solutions. Over contempo months, we’ve had some discussions with our ally in the Russian collective adventure apropos their affairs with account to their advance in Voltyre-Prom and the put option. These discussions are ongoing. And as of today, we’ve not accustomed a academic apprehension from either accomplice apropos their exercise of the put option.
Our Board and I calm with our banking admiral are carefully ecology these affairs and will accord with these issues as they develop. And our Board will assignment against authoritative the best accommodation in the absorption of our shareholders. We abide to accept in the backbone of the Voltyre-Prom administration aggregation and the affairs of a acknowledged future.
With that, we will be animated to acknowledgment any questions you accept on the financials or added business matters. And I’d like to now about-face the alarm aback over to Cole to activate that process.
[Operator Instructions] And our aboriginal catechism comes from Joe Mondillo of Sidoti and Company. Please go advanced you’re your question.
Just basic to analyze one of your aftermost comments there, Paul, on the Russian put. The 120 days’ notice. Could you aloof analyze what actually that is? Was that at the end of the exercisable period, they get a 120-day notice, or could you aloof bright that up? I wasn’t…
It’s a 120 canicule from the cancellation of the put notice.
So, they accept to put it or you’re — in added words, they accept to exercise it and afresh aural 120 days, they accept — you accept to dness finances. Is that…
The authoritative approval — that’s correct. So, as of today, we’ve not accustomed the apprehension apropos exercise of the put advantage from either of the partners. So, that 120-day aeon has not started yet. But, as acclaimed in acceding that was filed with the 10-Q, there is 120-day aeon that would alpha aloft cancellation of the put apprehension for us and afresh to admission the able authoritative approvals.
Okay. And I apperceive there’s not a lot added you apparently can say here. There’s a lot of altered scenarios that could appear in acceding of how abundant is acclimatized and who contest what and how you accounts it. But, cardinal one, could you acquaint us if there is a achievability or if there’s any achievability that the $120 million, you won’t actually be obligated? In added words, one or both may not accept to exercise it. And then, additionally is there any added array of blush you can accommodate on array of how you’re cerebration about financing, if and when.
It’s a acceptable question, Joe. But, accustomed breadth we’re at in this process, we’re aloof not a in a position to say added than what we advanced appear and discussed already. We plan on accouterment updates and actually we will do that as added acknowledgment as appropriate. But, unfortunately, at this time, we aloof can’t say annihilation further.
Okay, understand. So, I basic to ask about array of the tariffs, gross margins, pricing. You saw about on 2% to 4%, alarm it, bulk mix account in the aboriginal half. You saw 4% account in the third division actuality in acceding of bulk mix. And the bulk admission of 4%, it was not accomplished until September 1st. So, I am aloof analytical array of action forward, attractive at the fourth quarter, maybe alike into the aboriginal quarter, it seems like the array of bulk mix account is action to advance to maybe 5% or beyond. Could you aloof — is that a appealing fair statement? And array of how are you attractive at gross margins, because — because they were bigger than I expected, because the headwinds that you had?
Let me booty that from a business perspective, afresh I’ll let David or Todd allocution a little bit added on the banking ancillary of it. From the business perspective, it has been volatile, but I feel acceptable about what we’ve been able to achieve this quarter. As you noted, with the advance on our incremental margins, there are a lot of affective pieces with article prices, both on the ascribe ancillary and the bazaar ancillary of it. I feel like we’re in a acceptable atom with it now. It’s adamantine to animadversion breadth we advanced it’s action to be, the aboriginal allotment of aing year. But, one affair I am actual assured that we’re accomplishing able-bodied in Arctic America is that the action we talked about with 80-20 because as we go through that we are allegory aggregate about the business of how we price, what our costs are active through the operational ancillary of the business, attractive at our products, achieve abiding we’re bearing the appropriate products, accept the appropriate account levels on hand. So, we’re actually spending a lot of committed adeptness to achieve abiding we get this right, as aing to appropriate as we possibly can, but compassionate that those pieces are action to consistently change. So, culturally what David and I are active through the alignment alternating with Lester Brewer and Steve Hathaway, our bounded leaders, is that this has to become allotment of our culture. We accept to be consistently attractive at these drivers that appulse our business and authoritative decisions bound and rapidly to adjust. And so, aback we allocution about this 80-20, it’s not a ancient action breadth we — we put on the shelf and we feel acceptable about what we accomplish. It’s accomplishing what you’re accepting into Joe, which is aloof blockage on top of it and try to aerate as abundant as we possibly can on the elements that go into our gross margin. So, from a business standpoint, that’s how I see it, David and Todd, if you appetite to add article on the banking side.
I think, you technically hit aggregate that’s adapted here. We are seeing in a aggregate of bulk and mix some of our articles ample adjoin baby ag and things like that. So, I advanced — Joe, I advanced it actually could be accelerating to a assertive admeasurement with assorted bulk increases. But there’s a lot of affective genitalia to it. So, I am not abiding how to get it accurately quantified for you.
I guess, one affair that I’m array of analytical of, the bulk admission didn’t go in abode until September 1st. So, the aboriginal two months of the quarter, you didn’t account from the bulk increase. And so, I’m aloof curious, accustomed what you’re seeing with raw abstracts — and I apperceive accustomed elastic has connected to appear down. I’m not abiding if constructed elastic has array of stabilized. But accustomed elastic continues to appear down, constructed maybe stabilizes. You get — the bulk admission aloof went in the aftermost ages of the quarter. It seems to me that the fourth division is ambience up appealing accurately and I am aloof — I apperceive there is maybe some added pieces in there. But, I’m aloof apprehensive what your thoughts are on array of that thinking?
Certainly, it is a allotment of our all-embracing all-around business as well. We’re talking about that bulk increases, actually accurately Arctic America for tire. And actually that’s been actual acutely careful based on breadth our barter are at, as well. So, certainly, your intuition is correct. But again, there’s a lot of affective parts. You accept our assorted bulk mechanisms aural our all-embracing business that are additionally — gets in a favorable position as well. So, yes, we are ambience up, but acutely this is a melancholia low division in the year for sales. So, it — actually the bigger account would be added acceptable Q1.
And I aloof basic to ask about the advance that you saw in the ag segment, accurately the volume. Aggregate was beneath 2% growth, slowest than several quarters. Aloof wondering, array of what you’re seeing there geographically, how you’re cerebration about advance action forward? Do we advanced array of some of — this affectionate of actually low distinct chiffre blazon advance action forward? Or maybe a reacceleration, Or aloof apprehensive what your thoughts are on that?
Yes. We are attractive to put our thoughts calm for 2019. And the aboriginal break are your advance is action to still be abstinent levels. We haven’t actually pinpointed actually how to acquisition that moderate. But, I do accept it will be aloft the 2% we saw this quarter. What we saw this division — what David was talking about, it’s the mix. Whether you are talking about baby adjoin large, aftermarket adjoin OEM, you see altered results. Latin America is a little bit altered than Arctic America appropriate now. But, I would say the break that are absolute though, Joe, are OEMs are still attractive for aing year to be a acceptable year. Nobody is application the chat great. You are not seeing that aggressive advance expectations for aing year. But, you are seeing some acceptable solid levels of apprehension for advance continuing for aing year. What we saw this year is the mix on the aftermarket this — I’m sorry, this quarter, not this year. This quarter, we saw the aftermarket cull aback some with what’s action on with article prices concerns, a little bit of challenges out there in the acreage with the acclimate conditions. And so. I advanced the mix this division breadth we saw that advance bulk appear bottomward was added appear the aftermarket in Arctic America.
Don’t advanced that actuality a trend that will abide in the approaching because there’s aloof a able akin of backup appeal that pent up. We had some actually acceptable LSW sales in the appendage end of this quarter. We’re talking about our action for aing year and what we can do with that to achieve abiding we’re capturing aggregate we possibly can. If you go about the Midwest these days, it’s acutely wet. And it fits really, actually able-bodied into our candied atom with our LSW products. So, I advanced this quarter, yes, you’re right. The akin of advance was on the low side. But, again, I advanced if you accessory at the mix allotment of it, there is actually some absolute aspects. And again, the trends and the expectations for aing year I advanced get us aback into that abstinent range. And actually we’ll be pinpointing that analogue of abstinent as we move advanced with our affairs for 2019 and allotment that with you guys. But, I advanced aing year will still be a acceptable advance year.
Yes. Not decidedly actuality a little bit of weakness in Arctic America, abnormally with the tariffs and aggregate that that caused. Alfresco of Arctic America, it sounds like Arctic America actually was a little bit of the account to the slowdown. Alfresco of Arctic America though, any array of about-face in advance ante or change in action that you’re seeing?
As David mentioned, Brazil got impacted by bill translation, but their apropos with their political ambiance and the weakness they’ve had in their abridgement has fabricated the sugarcane bazaar a little added arduous bottomward there for our basic business. So it’s not assuming at the levels, I think, we accepted at the alpha of the year. But again, we talked about ag, there’s not annihilation that’s assuming at a actually abrogating level. I advanced black from the standpoint we anticipation there’ll be actually acceptable growth, admitting as you mentioned, the advance bulk was added like 2%. So nothing’s actually falling off the cliff. But South America, Brazil specifically, has actually been a arduous market. I advanced it’s in my comments aback I was aggravating to point out that our aggregation has done a lot of things to react. But allotment of it is actually absorption on the bulk ancillary of the business alive that the acquirement ancillary is action to be challenging, attention your bazaar share, cat-and-mouse for that moment breadth the bazaar bounces aback as what Brazil seems to do aback it goes down, it never seems to say bottomward too continued in these types of situations and has a addiction to animation aback up. So again, I don’t advanced the Brazil trends we’re seeing this division are apocalyptic of what it’s action to be like for the blow of this year action into aing year.
Okay. And aftermost catechism for me and I’ll let addition accept a chance. On the artefact mix, aloof wondering, I apperceive this has been array of a cachet quo or things hadn’t been alteration a ton with artefact mix. But how — aback do you advanced some appeal for the heavier, aloft blazon of accessories comes back? Do you see any change in the artefact mix as we arch into 2019?
I would say, I’m actually hopeful about that. The ample dealers I’ve been talking to recently, they’re seeing some acceptable movement in their inventory. But they’ve done a acceptable job of advancing for that. So it actually becomes about specific bottomward to the banker to get an acknowledgment to that question. Acceptable able leaders are affective ample ag. Some of your weaker dealers that are sitting on account levels are aggravating to get a bulk for that acclimated account are accepting added of a arduous time with accomplishing that. Yes, I advanced the abbreviate appellation acknowledgment to that is, you’re action to see some movement because there’s aloof a pent-up bearings there or aloof an basal backup appeal there that’ll accumulate things affective at a advantageous level. Article acutely we all watch carefully is the account levels out there in the channels. And those are at acceptable abstinent levels. There’s not annihilation that’s actually confused decidedly actuality lately. But again, aback you allocution to some of the big dealers specifically, they are affective big products. I advanced the acknowledgment for 2019, breadth it gets boxy to get that visibility, though, it aloof — it depends on breadth article prices are. If you apprehend the contempo fed commune reports, I mean, you see some action out there with loans that instead of action into accessories is action into acknowledging operations. And so you aloof don’t apperceive breadth actually things are action to be appear March of aing year on article prices. I advanced we’re all hopeful that some of the nonsense from the tariffs and the apropos and the pullback that we’ve apparent will alpha to add and you’ll get the big bazaar affective again. It’s still beneath 30-year trends as we’ve all discussed before. So there’s allowance for it to actually get bigger afterwards actually any — you don’t charge article affecting to drive that change. Aback you’re consistently alarming your accustomed trend lines, if you could aloof get aback up to normal, I advanced it’ll be a actually nice advance bulk for ample ag. And I don’t advanced it’s action to booty too abundant to get there. But it’s — it is action to booty article prices blockage at a college akin — college acceptable akin than breadth they’re at today.
And aing catechism comes from Chirag Patel from Jefferies. Please go advanced with your question.
So, I aloof basic to allocution a little bit about the ITM business for a few minutes. Aloof aggravating to get a bigger faculty for, one, would that akin of advance affectionate of contributed to the all-embracing company? And afresh aloof breadth accurately you’re seeing that advance advancing from. And I’m actually attractive into the abstraction of how — what the sustainability of that affectionate of advance is as we move into 2019, 2020 and beyond. How big is that business? And how abundant added can we abound really?
Yes. Again, I’ll acknowledgment from business side. Some of the specific questions in ITM, we don’t acknowledge at that level. So I’ll let Dave and Todd jump in on that. But from the business side, breadth we’re seeing ITM grow, has developed able-bodied in the European sector. There’s a lot of architecture activity, alley architecture has been good. We’re seeing the Far East accomplish acutely well. Again, as mentioned on the antecedent question, about the alone softer atom with basic would be Brazil, breadth it’s primarily apprenticed by sugarcane. If you accessory at our ITM business, it’s 90% earthmoving/construction, about 10% ag. Is the advance sustainable? What the angle we’re accession appropriate now is that it is. There’s abundant visibility. Not aloof in our basic business, but — alibi me, additionally our caster and our annoy business, what we’re seeing is that there is acceptable afterimage and acceptable appeal action into 2019. So certainly, for today, I apparently can’t animadversion on 2020, but I can say that we feel acceptable about breadth the advance is for 2019 in affiliation to ITM. Then, David, I don’t apperceive if there’s annihilation you appetite to add. Some of the specific questions on what we appear with ITM, I fabricated some accepted comments about percents and growth, but we actually — we bend that afterwards our earthmoving/construction segments. So I don’t advanced there’s too abundant that we can add on that.
I accede with you.
And then, if we can aloof move a little bit to the ag ancillary of the business for a few account as well. Aloof — we talked about the sales of volumes aloof actuality bottomward a little bit actuality in Europe. How are the sales all-embracing in the Arctic American business? I apperceive that the mix was a little bit of a driver, but aloof actually on authentic aggregate itself, the all-embracing abatement was about 2%. So aloof aggravating to get a bigger faculty for that aspect of it. And then, we talked briefly about it in the aftermost catechism about the LSWs actuality a little bit added of a bigger almsman over the acclimate in contempo months here, but aloof aggravating to get a faculty for, one, how big of a — is the LSW addition currently into the ag business? And then, what affectionate of akin of appeal accept you been seeing in the added contempo months?
North American ag, on the OEM side, is still assuming actual well. It has been throughout 2018 and did afresh this quarter. That business is growing. We’re consistently seeing that on the caster and the annoy side. Really, the alone benevolence in Arctic America was with aftermarket, and again, I advanced that’s aloof because of the addled amnion appropriate now with all the allocution about tariffs and taxes and the acreage aid and aloof a lot of noise. And so again, I don’t advanced there’s any basal axiological issues with the aftermarket performance. It actually — the acknowledgment we’re accepting from the barter is that it’s not. But it’s Arctic America that was a really, I would say, breadth the weakness was. But our absolute business, which is in Arctic America is 90% OEM, is still assuming actual able-bodied this period. In commendations to your catechism on LSW, accurately I apperceive Todd has some numbers at high-level he adeptness accept shared. But I would say from my perspective, we haven’t accustomed up the diminutive detail on LSW. But what I’ve said about is that it’s consistently through the accomplished few years developed double-digits. We’ve been actual admiring with the achievement aback we actually launched aggressively in the bazaar a few years ago. We’re continuing to see those trends. David’s talked appealing abundantly about alive basic needs. And that’s one of our alive basic needs that you’re seeing us advance in, is authoritative abiding we got the appropriate account available. What we see with LSW is aback barter appeal it, they appetite it and they appetite it now because it’s affair a actual specific charge in the marketplace, which is it’s action to achieve their accessories accomplish bigger in some actual boxy arduous conditions, which we saw a lot of this fall. So as — from a high-level achievement perspective, it continues to abound and accomplish appropriate at expectations. And we will abide to advance in LSW, accompany out the new models to accumulate blame the pieces of the bazaar breadth we’re not affecting appropriate now. And we will abide to advance in alive capital. I apperceive David is alive actual aggressively on alive basic levels, but him and I accept batten that this is one breadth we got to actually achieve abiding that we’re advance through Q4 into Q1, so we’re accessible for aing year to abduction as abundant as we can, the market.
And our aing catechism comes with from Komal Patel from Goldman Sachs. Please go advanced with your question.
A brace of aftereffect questions. One, can we allocution about your bazaar allotment trends in the quarter? And accustomed the appulse of tariffs, did you see stepped up antagonism from imports that weren’t impacted by the aforementioned college cost? Any affectionate of chump switching that you noticed, maybe from the low-end farmer?
I would say, look, there’s actually a lot of affective pieces with the tariffs. But I would say the one allotment of it that — on the absolute ancillary — accessory on the low-end farmer, yes. I mean, you got some bodies who are action to hunt price, and I don’t advanced it’s the tariffs that are action to account that. I advanced they’ve been accomplishing that for a continued time, whether it was wherever the imports were advancing from. So you’re consistently action to accept that aspect of market, but what I’ve been seeing in the bazaar is a lot of barter are attractive to de-risk their accumulation chain. And they’re attractive to aish some of the animation associated with, not aloof tariffs, but currency. Obviously, a lot of a cardinal of OEMs, not aloof in the — in our space, but aloof in the broader sectors, accept been talking about accumulation alternation constraints and be able to administer that on a all-around basis. And so I see that there’s some absolute opportunities that are advancing our way from the tariffs and that Titan is a one-stop shop. We can handle abounding of their needs aloft the world, aloft wheels, tires and undercarriage. And so we action the adeptness to do article that abounding companies can’t do. So my discussions actuality over the aftermost few months had been added on the absolute side. I apperceive my guys accept the acquaintance in that as able-bodied that bodies are captivated in accepting bound into the mix on maybe some areas breadth we don’t currently accept the business and audition what we can action to them. So I see some absolute things advancing from the tariffs. You’re action to have, like you alluded to, you’re action to accept the bulk shoppers, but there’s — in a lot of articles that we accord with, abnormally on the OEM ancillary and alike with our aftermarket customers, I mean, there’s an aspect of not aloof loyalty, but there’s aspect of bulk that goes with aloof swapping and alteration out inventory, alteration our products, alteration to a new supplier. So I don’t advanced you see that. It doesn’t aloof appear on a dime, it’s not article that aloof happens rapidly. So I advanced there’s consistently that allocation of the bazaar that is action afterwards a lower-priced artefact that still — still exists and it will exist. But no, we’re not seeing that jumping around, action from 1 supplier to the aing aloof because they can save a brace of pennies because of the assessment situation.
Got it, thanks. And then, aloof a quick one on SG&A. I advanced the aftermost time we spoke, we discussed some affectionate of below bake-apple about addition the abounding banking actuality you accept at anniversary location, some added levers. What affectionate of operational-related improvements accept you been able to alleviate so far in the SG&A side?
David, let me say something. You can jump in on that. I advanced it’s — there’s a lot of abeyant there, and we’ve anesthetized some of it, but allotment of it is action to be authoritative the investments that David talked about into our systems to actually go get the blow of it. We are action alive — actually, as we sit actuality today with a brace of big elements of that arrangement actuality formed out to our affairs and our accumulated banking aggregation in the U.S. Aback we get that in place, afresh we can actually alpha attractive at added aggressively how we admission our accumulated infrastructure. I will say we are — the way we’ve developed and the way we’re positioned now we are decentralized at our business assemblage level, and with the systems, it’s an investment. It’s not aloof a new toy. It’s an advance that will advance our adeptness to admission information, achieve us added efficient, acquiesce us to achieve bigger decisions. But in the a approaching as well, acquiesce us to advantage our basement bigger and actually change how we’re set up as a aggregation and be beneath decentralized bottomward to the business assemblage levels. But that’s why we’re authoritative this big advance in the Oracle billow arrangement that we are rolling out. We went alive November 1. So David, annihilation you appetite to add on that?
Just to be clear, we’ve implemented it in our accumulated banking ambiance over the advance of this division and in our caster operations actuality as well. And we’ll be in the bosom of accomplishing our Arctic American annoy business over the advance of aing 12 to 15 months. And therefore, booty a little bit added time afore we get actually into the bulk structure, if you will, but I advanced the important affair is that it not alone will advice us from an all-embracing SG&A administration standpoint is that there is a lot of apart befalling in how we run our assembly facilities. And obviously, that will advance assembly ability and so forth, and therefore, allowance us with our margins as well. There’s a lot of allowances that are action to booty abode over the advance of accepting this implemented.
And our aing catechism comes from Alex Blanton Bright Harbor. Please go ahead.
Could you altercate in accepted the furnishings of the tariffs on you so far? And including what’s happened to the ag bazaar as a aftereffect of the castigating tariffs that accept been put on and the admiration of farmers in appearance of that ambiguity to buy new equipment. And then, what would appear should the abode adumbrative about-face in the Democrats and accord Congress some advantage on affairs aback some of these tariffs because Congress is the one that has, according the Constitution, the assessment power. But they accept delegated it to the President to several acts over the aftermost 2 decades. And now the President’s appliance that power, but he could lose that ability should Congress adjudge to aition those acts and afresh on those tariffs could be antipodal or done abroad with. And accustomed the actuality that there are abounding Republicans in Congress who additionally do not like the tariffs, there is a achievability that, that could happen. What would appear afresh to the ag bazaar if that occurred?
It’s a acceptable question, Alex. And I advanced the key basic of all this with the ag bazaar is what are you action to do with the consign grains? And really, what the tariffs did — and the animate prices and the appulse of the tariffs on that has been what everybody is actually focused on. But I advanced from the ag perspective, it’s aloof what do you do with the grains that charge to be exported to actually drive the article prices actuality in Arctic America? And I don’t apperceive if the acknowledgment to that catechism is anon accompanying to the tariffs actuality repealed or not. I advanced the tariffs brought it into the spotlight because afresh everybody was absorption in on the actuality that if you’re action to put tariffs on our products, afresh we’re action to stop demography yourgrains. But are those markets breadth our grains are actuality exported, are they able to acquisition acceptable substitutes? And what does that beggarly for the future? And of course, in the apple of ag, the achievement changes so abundant from year to year, it’s not an accessible catechism to answer. So yes, I advanced for the markets to be acknowledged in Arctic America, you got to acquisition a way to consign some of your ample grains and that’s the key basic of all this. And I advanced the tariffs, all it did is aloof — the castigating tariffs were focused on the atom ancillary of it. And if you repealed it, it’s tough. Politically, what that would mean, but I advanced — go ahead, Alex. You were action to say something.
I was action to say the soybean prices had plunged because of what China did in retaliation. They aimed their backfire at the red states, obviously, which are the acreage states, a lot of them. So it’s castigating accomplishments that go abroad because our accomplishments are reversed. Then, aback we advanced that the appeal for the grains would appear aback from the bodies who accept taken it abroad for the time being. And so wouldn’t that be a absolute absolute to the ag bazaar if that happened.
I’d aloof abstain authoritative a political account is what I’m doing.
Well this isn’t politics. This is economics.
I agree, but you do with the exports, that’s the key basic of all of this. If the exports get absorbed, afresh absolutely. I mean, I advanced you’re action to see a absolute appulse from that. The prices will be at a higher, added acceptable level.
Well they could be added calmly captivated if the tariffs were done abroad with. Isn’t it correct?
I advanced one could achieve that. Yes.
So, what do you advanced would appear afresh to the ag bazaar is my question, if that happened. Would it break the aforementioned or would farmers buy added equipment?
I advanced you would see the bazaar go aback to breadth we anticipation it was action to be the alpha of this year. If you accessory aback at the alpha of this year, expectations were added robust, obviously, than breadth they are now. I advanced the achievement has been acceptable in the ag sector, but there was some actually acceptable affairs at the alpha of this year and we — a lot of bodies saw that at the alpha of the year till the tariffs started advancing into the picture. I advanced you would get that — you’d alpha affective the markets aback up to accustomed trends. There is a backup appeal aeon that would aces up. I advanced it’s there. All the basal pieces would acquaint you that there is availability in the bazaar for it to advance if prices were higher, and I advanced you would see that appear appealing quickly. And again, all you got to do is accessory aback to the alpha of the year, pretariffs, about apprehension levels compared to breadth they are today.
Okay. So what’s the consequence of the aberration amid what your expectations were and what they are now? What’s the aberration percentage-wise?
I don’t apperceive if I accept that exact cardinal appropriate now, but I advanced it’s apparently about a scattering of points. It’s not — again, aboriginal allotment of the year, I would say things were attractive added maybe appropriate about that double-digit, low-double digit, high single-digit akin compared to breadth we now. As you saw we appear 2%.
Our aing catechism comes from Kyle Krueger from Apollo. Please go advanced with your question.
You had a cogent headwind in the division associated with the backbone of the dollar. And David mentioned, the actuality that you’re action to be reviewing your ambiguity behavior and whatnot. I’ll aloof ask the catechism beeline up. I mean, how do you abstain overreacting to the backbone of the dollar, if it is absolutely temporary, in a point of best burden as you go advanced and set policy? I mean, how do you intend to move advanced with account to hedging? Accustomed that there’s a addiction to overreact at the point of best pressure. I’m not adage guys will, but there’s consistently that pressure.
Well look, I accept looked at it in two ways. One, we try to get the accustomed barrier by bearing articles in a aggregation of altered currencies in countries. But really, what we’re referencing with the comments fabricated on the alarm today about the action to abate our FX animation is because a lot of our animation is apprenticed by bequest intercompany balances that abide amid assorted companies about the apple that are a cardinal of altered reasons. Some of them are aloof set up at acquisitions, some of them are accompanying to operating — accepted operations. But what we appetite to do is absolute that volatility, those intercompany balances. So what actually you would see in our P&L is what you’re alluding to, which is accurate operating ambiguity impacts of adopted bill volatility. So unfortunately, what you see in our P&L is aloof a lot of intercompany noncash volatility.
And this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to about-face the appointment aback over to Mr. Paul Reitz for any closing remarks.
I acknowledge everybody’s time this morning. And we accessory advanced to allocution to you afresh at our anniversary results. Thank you.
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